Tibor - I have a technical question...
Why don't you try sticking your head up your ass and tell us if it fits.
Creep ass enabler.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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He was going to get FREE OF CHARGE, his book translated into Spanish - which would have sold god knows how many copies, but he wouldn't give away a few free copies in English.....for a book that he was funded to produce by the community, pocketed and continues to pocket 100% of the profit and the community that funded it had to buy their own copies...
Not only that, but once he found out that some of his unpaid volunteer translators had PDF copies of his book, he attempted to dox them and threaten legal action. Sound familiar? This after he pirated Crisis of Conscience and bitterly complained about the copyright owner sending him a Cease and Desist letter.
Google the median wage for residents of Hermosillo, Mexico to ascertain the absolutely heinous nature of what he did.
How has he been allowed to do this?
The answer to that is he is taking advantage of exited cult members who were already conditioned to give their money to a "higher cause".
He has the same moral scruples of someone dealing drugs outside a rehab facility.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Kim Silvio - I didn't get it. I just DMed you.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Not in public. DM me if interested
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Kim Silvio:
Please tell me your joking.....omg I feel sick, how embarrassing.....really? Firstly, you can go into a book store and look, touch and read a book before you buy it....Secondly, a cover charge?
You are actually following the woman on Twitter who set up the book signing event for him.
Also: It is on this forum that he started writing his book and disclosed his original plan of writing it as his real self as a "disfellowship me" stunt to gain publicity.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/242781/ive-started-writing-my-book
This I also did not know. Was it ever spoken of publicly? I would be happy to advertise this rubbish on Twitter because people NEED to understand the past, it's not ok to let this keep happening. THIS IS EVERYONE's BUSINESS
It was spoken of briefly on this thread:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5682940001386496/charging-150-tell-your-stories?page=14
More detail was discussed on this Spanish exJW forum:
https://extj.co/foro/showthread.php?tid=1092&page=5
Don't know if you can understand Spanish, but they go back and forth there with many still blindly supporting him though it's clear he's just using their free labour and goodwill.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Kim Silvio - You ever hear of the time he went to the undue influence conference chaired by Steve Hassan? His first child was just born and he took Dijana and Jessica with him to London. I believe it was Marc Latham who met him in the lobby and greeted them. Lloyd was more concerned about getting to the conference and setting himself up to speak so he left his newborn and wife down there and hurried up the stairs. Marc had to help Dijana with taking the pram carefully to the stairs as there was no lift. Lloyd found out there were just sitting at a table and wanted a podium for himself. He was upset.
On his book tour the first event was at a coffee shop in London. He had just crowdfunded nearly $22,000 to finish the book and insisted on selling it at the highest price Amazon would allow. A subscriber of his arranged the entire thing. When she met Lloyd she asked if she could see the book but he refused, telling her she needed to purchase it. Also Lloyd insisted on a cover charge to get near him which was news to the coffee shop management as they were not notified and it was against their policy as they were allowing him there for free. Lloyd worried that he would run out of pens for the signing.
He also crowdfunded for the Spanish translation of TRA. The translators were unpaid volunteers so he pocketed the cash. Lloyd insisted the translators have experience in that field and wanted them to submit their CV. He would only give them one chapter at a time to translate. When some wanted the whole book so they can get a grasp of it, he told them they needed to purchase the book. The Spanish translation was eventually aborted. Lloyd got paid for doing nothing. The volunteers were never compensated for their time and trouble.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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He was supposed to stay in Thailand for 2 months however when she told him that she wanted a divorce, he came back
I keep coming back to this... 2 months in Thailand. Now it's not exactly Monte Carlo or the Swiss Alps, but two months spent on hotels, excursions, scuba lessons, meals, transportation, hookers, all while leaving enough money for the wife to pay the bills back home...? That's a shit tonne of money. And he seemed to not blink in making these plans right after he got back from Texas.
Yet he keeps changing the story on what revenue stream was enough to pay for all this. First it was the book revenue, now it's Google ads, all designed to keep us from looking at the crown jewel of his empire.
Patreon.
That's the man behind the curtain he doesn't want you to see.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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He used this forum to promote his site when he first started. I can't remember if he was already out at that point (heck, I don't really know if he's genuinely "out" even now, LOL) but he gave us all early access to how he worked and what he was like.
Simon - The survey thing came a little later. He started asking for money for a SurveyMonkey subscription and Lady Lee shut him down. He started attacking her in return.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/216247/2011-global-survey-jehovahs-witnesses?page=2
He first came on here because he sent an email to jwfacts about how he noticed the WT dramatisation of the Cedar Point convention didn't include the huge American flags beside Rutherford in the original photo. jwfacts posted an article about it, and he couldn't stand to remain anonymous, thus he chose the name "cedars" and posted on Paul's thread that he was the one who sent the email.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Kim Silvio:
Thanks for adding new details to this saga. I hope you continue to fill us in and perhaps even make a comprehensive post of what happened from your POV and don't feel the need to editorialise it. With everything Lloyd, it explains itself. It does make more sense now that in his "I'm Taking a Break" video he gave a specific time frame he would come back to making videos (2 months, starting in March). I found it disingenuous at the very beginning. If it was that bad of a mid-life crisis as he was advertising, then you don't cap it with a specified amount of time. Now we know it was to flee his wife, continue to collect donations whilst living in relative comfort in Thailand and frequent sex workers. You were DEAD ON in what you did. In fact you probably should have shortened his holiday by making the statement in early January.
Do you know Lloyd personally? You must do!! I am quite freaked out in this forum as to how well you all seem to know the "real Lloyd". Your comments about the friend of Dijana's could have been me typing....this is freaking me out!
We have a history on this forum. He irritated me when he suggested I was using a font that was designed to crash other people's browsers and that was the reason why he was the only one arguing with me. He also was being a condescending prick and scolded people for responding to him so late as we were keeping him up and as a result were taking him away from his wife and thus harming(!) his marriage.
With that said, I'll present you with a couple selections out of the "Lloyd Evans - Greatest Hits" album
Synopsis #1: Lloyd writes one of his early JWSurvey articles about WT possibly losing Patterson to Candace Conti and asks for "feedback". A few people who knew better were trying to tell him it was a legal maneuver by WT to avoid handing Conti a cash settlement she could spend prior to appeal. It made more sense to put up Patterson as collateral but Lloyd was insistent that Conti could actually end up owning the property. He then retaliates by involving the Contis themselves by posting messages supposedly from them telling everyone to back off Cedars. He ended up getting several people banned on this thread:
Synopsis #2: A poster makes contact with a reporter about an issue and makes the mistake of posting the email itself to Lloyd and others. Lloyd immediately usurps this contact and tells the poster "thanks for your help", saying he'll take it from there. That didn't go down well and towards the end he was absolutely melting down, asking in pity for posters to take their shots at him.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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In his book, he briefly described his courtship with her. It immediately got off to an awkward start when she pronounced her name for him and he lamely quipped "oh just like Princess Diana". She then excused herself and he claimed that a rivalry for her affections began between himself and two other pioneer brothers. They would make friendly wagers on whom she would choose, though there seemed to be a consensus that Lloyd was in last place. Lloyd upped his game and started following her round with a video camera recording her every move. When their stay in Croatia ended, she ended up giving her contact details which he utilised frequently when back in the UK. It seemed like it was a game to hm, like he "won" her over two better looking suitors. Minor point but even by his own admission it seemed she was a prize to be attained to show the other two pioneers who were after her who won.
"I had a friend once but he didn't like her" is such a sad indictment of a relationship. I hope she starts to spread her wings and learns to expand her own social network so he isn't in such complete control of her life. It's not like she is the one in a foreign country so she has that advantage after all.
Now this is vintage Lloyd. What made Lloyd not like her friend? Did she not praise him at very opportunity? My guess is she was polite but distant and they started speaking Croatian round him which he did not understand and he thought she was telling her friend about his controlling nature and infidelities. He then probably staged a meltdown which ended up with him in tears, saying how he did not want anyone to get in between them.
Her loss of that friend has paid off dividends for him now as I am quite certain that friend of hers would have talked some sense into her to either boot him from the house or take the girls with her and stay at the friend's home.
This is how manipulators and abusers operate.
There was also this strange comment made by him that her mum was crying with Dijana when she found out Lloyd was leaving for Thailand. This makes no sense as what JW or non-JW mum would cry about her apostate son-in-law leaving for Thailand after just getting busted for hooking up in Texas? Good riddance, and three weeks is more than enough time to move all his possessions into the barn for pickup when he returns.